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Over half a year ago, immediately following the reported death of [[Jeffrey Epstein]], Eric recorded a solo episode that he never released in hopes that its subject matter would be overtaken by investigative journalism. As this has not happened, it is being released with some trepidation in March of 2020 due to the issue of state involvement with Jeffrey Epstein.   

Over half a year ago, immediately following the reported death of [[Jeffrey Epstein]], Eric recorded a solo episode that he never released in hopes that its subject matter would be overtaken by investigative journalism. As this has not happened, it is being released with some trepidation in March of 2020 due to the issue of state involvement with Jeffrey Epstein.   

Now, I really don’t want to come back to the Jeffrey Epstein story, so what I’m saying to you is, it’s quite possible that Jeffrey Epstein is simply dead by his own hand, that he was a pervy billionaire or near billionaire who had an interest in science, and also, an interest in young women that ranged from women of perhaps age 23 down either to 18, 15, 12, what have you; maybe the official story is true. All I’m trying to suggest is that for some reason, I picked this one person to tell a 15 year story about that I believed he was an intelligence construct of probably another country operating in the center of the United States elite, and I believe that that is an additional piece of information because there’s no one else that I’ve been telling the story about. I’ve never met another person like this. This is a completely suis generis exception to my general understanding of the world, and I think if I am correct that there was something very much amiss, that it was obviously amiss, obvious to anybody who wished to see it, just as the world clearly closed their eyes to Jeffrey Epstein’s problems when it was found that he was asking for massages from underage girls in Florida, somebody was turning a blind eye towards the story almost certainly because it was too salacious not to be interesting. It’s the kind of a story that would move newspapers, it would sell advertising spots. It’s far too juicy for people to take this little of an interest in.  

Now, I really don’t want to come back to the Jeffrey Epstein story, so what I’m saying to you is, it’s quite possible that Jeffrey Epstein is simply dead by his own hand, that he was a pervy billionaire or near billionaire who had an interest in science, and also, an interest in young women that ranged from women of perhaps age 23 down either to 18, 15, 12, what have you; maybe the official story is true. All I’m trying to suggest is that for some reason, I picked this one person to tell a 15 year story about that I believed he was an intelligence construct of probably another country operating in the center of the United States elite, and I believe that that is an additional piece of information because there’s no one else that I’ve been telling the story about. I’ve never met another person like this. This is a completely suis generis exception to my general understanding of the world, and I think if I am correct that there was something very much amiss, that it was obviously amiss, obvious to anybody who wished to see it, just as the world clearly closed their eyes to Jeffrey Epstein’s problems when it was found that he was asking for massages from underage girls in Florida, somebody was turning a blind eye towards the story almost certainly because it was too salacious not to be interesting. It’s the kind of a story that would move newspapers, it would sell advertising spots. It’s far too juicy for people to take this little of an interest in.  

And I want to say one last thing about this. Jeffrey Epstein was enmeshed with a guy named John Brockman, who was a guy who in some sense gave me my first break on a larger stage. It is commonly believed at the moment by certain members of the media that John Brockman was complicit in the underage behavior, underage interest that Jeff Epstein showed in young girls. The one thing I can add is, is that I met John Brockman and his wife Katinka Mattson at Stuart Brand’s Interval Bar sometime in the last, I don’t know, one to three years. And when John and I sat down, I can tell you with certainty that John warned me that he’d had an interaction with Jeffrey that he had found very disturbing, and that John had been forced to walk out of his house, realizing that Jeffrey Epstein had had a problem. And John has not come forward, and I don’t know that there’s anybody else in a position to tell this story, but I can say with some certainty that John was not happy about this and that if John was in fact, a tolerant of a Hugh Hefner style person, the person I met had no reason to say this to me, was certainly not okay with Jeffrey Epstein, [and] was in fact warning me away from him, and I had no interest in seeing Jeffrey at that point. So, I do wish to say that I think that the conspiracy theorizing that I’m seeing is of a lower quality and a lower level. Of course, if you want, I could find out that the entire Edge network is somehow at risk and implicated, but I can say as somebody on the very periphery–I wrote no books for John, I didn’t go to the billionaires’ dinners, I never went to this island and never flew in the plane–I met him once and I had a phone call with him afterwards. I can tell you that I don’t personally believe that John Brockman was caught up in this at the level that is now being alleged by certain members of the press who I feel, are perhaps not as responsible as they might be. Anyway, that’s more or less what I have to say on the subject, and with this, I intend to, to the extent possible exit the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy business. You’ve been through The Portal. Thanks for joining us.

And I want to say one last thing about this. Jeffrey Epstein was enmeshed with a guy named John Brockman, who was a guy who in some sense gave me my first break on a larger stage. It is commonly believed at the moment by certain members of the media that John Brockman was complicit in the underage behavior, underage interest that Jeff Epstein showed in young girls. The one thing I can add is, is that I met John Brockman and his wife Katinka Mattson at Stuart Brand’s Interval Bar sometime in the last, I don’t know, one to three years. And when John and I sat down, I can tell you with certainty that John warned me that he’d had an interaction with Jeffrey that he had found very disturbing, and that John had been forced to walk out of his house, realizing that Jeffrey Epstein had had a problem. And John has not come forward, and I don’t know that there’s anybody else in a position to tell this story, but I can say with some certainty that John was not happy about this and that if John was in fact, a tolerant of a Hugh Hefner style person, the person I met had no reason to say this to me, was certainly not okay with Jeffrey Epstein, [and] was in fact warning me away from him, and I had no interest in seeing Jeffrey at that point. So, I do wish to say that I think that the conspiracy theorizing that I’m seeing is of a lower quality and a lower level. Of course, if you want, I could find out that the entire Edge network is somehow at risk and implicated, but I can say as somebody on the very periphery–I wrote no books for John, I didn’t go to the billionaires’ dinners, I never went to this island and never flew in the plane–I met him once and I had a phone call with him afterwards. I can tell you that I don’t personally believe that John Brockman was caught up in this at the level that is now being alleged by certain members of the press who I feel, are perhaps not as responsible as they might be. Anyway, that’s more or less what I have to say on the subject, and with this, I intend to, to the extent possible exit the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy business. You’ve been through The Portal. Thanks for joining us.