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<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="00:14:00">00:14:00 - Daniel Schmachtenberger </div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="00:18:27">00:18:27 - System validity gain vs. loss as a distributed local criteria for response.</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="00:18:27">00:18:27 - System validity gain vs. loss as a distributed local criteria for response.</div>


<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="23:50">23:50 -  Source code of psychology</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="23:50">23:50 -  Source code of psychology</div>
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<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:17:11">1:17:11 -  The importance of life experience</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:17:11">1:17:11 -  The importance of life experience</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:19:06">1:19:06 -  The EU is a trap</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:19:06">1:19:06 -  The EU is a trap</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:21:16">1:21:16 -  Sharp minds vs. sharp elbows</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:22:35">1:22:35 -  The loss of the generator function and corruption</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:24:12">1:24:12 -  The danger of knowledge</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:26:40">1:26:40 -  The DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) as training wheels for the cultural elite.</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:30:30">1:30:30 -  The urge towards penetration</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:34:07">1:34:07 -  How sound thinking is derailed: Profits vs. gating</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:37:42">1:37:42 -  An economy of shame and terror</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:40:39">1:40:39 -  The Looting Party origins of FUD (fear, uncertainty and distortion)</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:46:40">1:46:40 -  No living heroes</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:49:33">1:49:33 -  A little bit of gas</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:50:10">1:50:10 -  Penetration options: Scaling beyond the Dunbar size</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="1:56:52">1:56:52 -  The End of  Capitalism</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:00:22">2:00:22 -  Tech as a gamechanger in evolution</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:02:55">2:02:55 -  Abstraction as crucial for evolution in hoomans</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:04:00">2:04:00 -  Reputation tech for scaling </div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:05:30">2:05:30 -  Selection pressures as an eualizer between species</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:08:45">2:08:45 -  Abstraction and toolmaking breaks the even distribution</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:16:00">2:16:00 -  Hoomans maximally k-selected </div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:10:00">2:10:00 -  Orange man bad</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:13:00">2:13:00 -  Solutions: Abstract pattern replicators (software updates)</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:14:48">2:14:48 -  Neoteny [retarding maturation] and nurture capacity in hoomans</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:16:00">2:16:00 -  Hoomans maximally k-selected</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:17:00">2:17:00 -  Buddhism and the lack of violence</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:18:40">2:18:40 -  Planned parenthood as an alternatives to violence?</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:21:00">2:21:00 -  Population decline and steady state population and green energy</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:22:00">2:22:00 -  Embracing population decline and selection for non-agressive traits</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:23:50">2:23:50 -  Can women be lured away from the call of motherhood?</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:24:30">2:24:30 -  Education of women makes children an opportunity cost</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:25:00">2:25:00 -  Renewable hoomans and steady state ressources</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:26:00">2:26:00 -  An economy of abundance makes it hard to get paid for your labor</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:27:40">2:27:40 -  Alternatives to markets</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:28:00">2:28:00 -  Back to Buddhism without getting killed</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:29:30">2:29:30 -  Hacking ourselves a transition</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:30:30">2:30:30 -  Sex and rivalry and weirdness</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:32:00">2:32:00 -  Abstract emphathy + coordination closing the loop</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:33:40">2:33:40 -  Private balance sheets</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:34:40">2:34:40 -  Ownership, access, mutual exclusion</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:35:20">2:35:20 -  Sharing is caring - commons</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:36:30">2:36:30 -  Anti-rivalry </div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:37:30">2:37:30 -  Prostitution, commitment and status</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:40:00">2:40:00 -  Relationships as a replacement for status</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:42:00">2:42:00 -  Power vs. wisdom</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:43:30">2:43:30 -  Religion + education = Cognitive ability and social harmony</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:44:00">2:44:00 -  Eric not trying to be negative</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:44:30">2:44:30 -  That's just crazy-talk, but....</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:46:10">2:46:10 -  Scaling collective consciousness</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:48:00">2:48:00 -  Motivating social engineering </div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:50:10">2:50:10 -  Bribing away military conflict</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:50:30">2:50:30 -  Summarizing for test and avoiding group selection as subject</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:54:30">2:54:30 -  Reservations and questions: Violence and ownership</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:55:50">2:55:50 -  Abundance and maturity</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:58:00">2:58:00 -  Development hacking towards maturity?</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="2:59:00">2:59:00 -  Sex is sexy</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="3:02:00">3:02:00 -  Sexual selection</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="3:05:00">3:05:00 -  Blind evolution: Short term benefits - long term problems</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="3:06:00">3:06:00 -  Status and feeling uncomfy</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="3:08:00">3:08:00 -  Diminishing returns on enhanced status</div>
<div data-type="table-of-contents" data-timestamp="3:11:00">3:11:00 -  The Dunbar number and attention in modern social networks</div>


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Revision as of 12:26, 29 April 2020

In this second episode of the Portal to be released during shelter-in-place restrictions during the Corona Virus Pandemic, we release an older discussion with Daniel Schmachtenberger on whether there is any plausible long term scenario for human flourishing confined to a single shared planet.

Daniel is seen as a leader of the growing Game B subculture of the human potential movement. This group bets that there is a second evolutionary stable strategy for cohabiting not based on conflict or rivalry, even for life raised in Game A (i.e. standard evolutionary and economic environments based on scarcity and rivalrous goods. Eric asks Daniel about where the bright spots and progress might be in this movement which refuses to accept the fate that that Eric has elsewhere put forward as the Twin Nuclei Problem of having unlocked the power of both Cell and Atom in the early 1950s without the wisdom to use it.


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Table of contents

00:00:20 - Covid and DISC
00:14:00 - Daniel Schmachtenberger
00:18:27 - System validity gain vs. loss as a distributed local criteria for response.
23:50 - Source code of psychology
35:20:00 - Exponential tech (CRISPR, Mores Law, Genetic engineering )
38:10:00 - Solving problems with violence
41:00:00 - Inverse correlation between rational and emotional function
45:00:00 - Motivation for misinformation
46:50:00 - Russel conjugation (limbic stimulation)
56:15:00 - Short term behavior
58:00:00 - Solving for multipolar traps
1:15:10 - Magical thinking, the false safety experience and group think
1:17:11 - The importance of life experience
1:19:06 - The EU is a trap
1:21:16 - Sharp minds vs. sharp elbows
1:22:35 - The loss of the generator function and corruption
1:24:12 - The danger of knowledge
1:26:40 - The DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) as training wheels for the cultural elite.
1:30:30 - The urge towards penetration
1:34:07 - How sound thinking is derailed: Profits vs. gating
1:37:42 - An economy of shame and terror
1:40:39 - The Looting Party origins of FUD (fear, uncertainty and distortion)
1:46:40 - No living heroes
1:49:33 - A little bit of gas
1:50:10 - Penetration options: Scaling beyond the Dunbar size
1:56:52 - The End of Capitalism
2:00:22 - Tech as a gamechanger in evolution
2:02:55 - Abstraction as crucial for evolution in hoomans
2:04:00 - Reputation tech for scaling
2:05:30 - Selection pressures as an eualizer between species
2:08:45 - Abstraction and toolmaking breaks the even distribution
2:16:00 - Hoomans maximally k-selected
2:10:00 - Orange man bad
2:13:00 - Solutions: Abstract pattern replicators (software updates)
2:14:48 - Neoteny [retarding maturation] and nurture capacity in hoomans
2:16:00 - Hoomans maximally k-selected
2:17:00 - Buddhism and the lack of violence
2:18:40 - Planned parenthood as an alternatives to violence?
2:21:00 - Population decline and steady state population and green energy
2:22:00 - Embracing population decline and selection for non-agressive traits
2:23:50 - Can women be lured away from the call of motherhood?
2:24:30 - Education of women makes children an opportunity cost
2:25:00 - Renewable hoomans and steady state ressources
2:26:00 - An economy of abundance makes it hard to get paid for your labor
2:27:40 - Alternatives to markets
2:28:00 - Back to Buddhism without getting killed
2:29:30 - Hacking ourselves a transition
2:30:30 - Sex and rivalry and weirdness
2:32:00 - Abstract emphathy + coordination closing the loop
2:33:40 - Private balance sheets
2:34:40 - Ownership, access, mutual exclusion
2:35:20 - Sharing is caring - commons
2:36:30 - Anti-rivalry
2:37:30 - Prostitution, commitment and status
2:40:00 - Relationships as a replacement for status
2:42:00 - Power vs. wisdom
2:43:30 - Religion + education = Cognitive ability and social harmony
2:44:00 - Eric not trying to be negative
2:44:30 - That's just crazy-talk, but....
2:46:10 - Scaling collective consciousness
2:48:00 - Motivating social engineering
2:50:10 - Bribing away military conflict
2:50:30 - Summarizing for test and avoiding group selection as subject
2:54:30 - Reservations and questions: Violence and ownership
2:55:50 - Abundance and maturity
2:58:00 - Development hacking towards maturity?
2:59:00 - Sex is sexy
3:02:00 - Sexual selection
3:05:00 - Blind evolution: Short term benefits - long term problems
3:06:00 - Status and feeling uncomfy
3:08:00 - Diminishing returns on enhanced status
3:11:00 - The Dunbar number and attention in modern social networks

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The DISC
New York mayor tweet
gated institutional narrative
Embedded Growth Obligation

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negative externalities
von Neuman-Morgenstern
[sub-utility functions]
principal agent problems
moral hazard

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Mechanical Ventilation in an Airborne Epidemic
Preparing intensive care for the next pandemic influenza
stockpiling ventilators for influenza, pandemics
estimates of the demand for mechanical ventilation in the United States during an influenza pandemic


Triage is the process of determining the priority of patients' treatments based on the severity of their condition or likelihood of recovery with and without treatment.


Daniel Schmachtenberger website
The Twin Nuclei Problem
Game B



A gene drive is a genetic engineering technology that propagates a particular suite of genes throughout a population by altering the probability that a specific allele will be transmitted to offspring from the natural 50% probability.
Kalynivka ammunition depot explosion
Mujahideen
James Damore
The Personal Responsibility Votex
Tristan Harris, founder of time well spent and the center for humane technology
COINTELPRO
Charles Lindbergh
Dunbar's number/limit
Peter Kropotkin
Lotka–Volterra equations