27: Daniel Schmachtenberger - On Avoiding Apocalypses

On Avoiding Apocalypses
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Guest	Daniel Schmachtenberger
Length	03:38:06
Release Date	27 March 2020
YouTube Date	27 April 2020
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In this second episode of the Portal to be released during shelter-in-place restrictions during the Corona Virus Pandemic, we release an older discussion with Daniel Schmachtenberger on whether there is any plausible long term scenario for human flourishing confined to a single shared planet.

Daniel is seen as a leader of the growing Game B subculture of the human potential movement. This group bets that there is a second evolutionary stable strategy for cohabiting not based on conflict or rivalry, even for life raised in Game A (i.e. standard evolutionary and economic environments based on scarcity and rivalrous goods. Eric asks Daniel about where the bright spots and progress might be in this movement which refuses to accept the fate that that Eric has elsewhere put forward as the Twin Nuclei Problem of having unlocked the power of both Cell and Atom in the early 1950s without the wisdom to use it.

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Table of contents

00:00:20 - Covid and DISC

00:14:00 - Daniel Schmachtenberger

00:18:27 - System validity gain vs. loss as a distributed local criteria for response.

00:23:50 - Source code of psychology

00:35:20 - Exponential tech (CRISPR, Mores Law, Genetic engineering )

00:38:10 - Solving problems with violence

00:41:00 - Inverse correlation between rational and emotional function

00:45:00 - Motivation for misinformation

00:46:50 - Russel conjugation (limbic stimulation)

00:56:15 - Short term behavior

00:58:00 - Solving for multipolar traps

01:15:10 - Magical thinking, the false safety experience and group think

01:17:11 - The importance of life experience

01:19:06 - The EU is a trap

01:21:16 - Sharp minds vs. sharp elbows

01:22:35 - The loss of the generator function and corruption

01:24:12 - The danger of knowledge

01:26:40 - The DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) as training wheels for the cultural elite.

01:30:30 - The urge towards penetration

01:34:07 - How sound thinking is derailed: Profits vs. gating

01:37:42 - An economy of shame and terror

01:40:39 - The Looting Party origins of FUD (fear, uncertainty and distortion)

01:46:40 - No living heroes

01:49:33 - A little bit of gas

01:50:10 - Penetration options: Scaling beyond the Dunbar size

01:56:52 - The End of Capitalism

02:00:22 - Tech as a gamechanger in evolution

02:02:55 - Abstraction as crucial for evolution in hoomans

02:04:00 - Reputation tech for scaling

02:05:30 - Selection pressures as an eualizer between species

02:08:45 - Abstraction and toolmaking breaks the even distribution

02:16:00 - Hoomans maximally k-selected

02:10:00 - Orange man bad

02:13:00 - Solutions: Abstract pattern replicators (software updates)

02:14:48 - Neoteny [retarding maturation] and nurture capacity in hoomans

02:16:00 - Hoomans maximally k-selected

02:17:00 - Buddhism and the lack of violence

02:18:40 - Planned parenthood as an alternatives to violence?

02:21:00 - Population decline and steady state population and green energy

02:22:00 - Embracing population decline and selection for non-agressive traits

02:23:50 - Can women be lured away from the call of motherhood?

02:24:30 - Education of women makes children an opportunity cost

02:25:00 - Renewable hoomans and steady state ressources

02:26:00 - An economy of abundance makes it hard to get paid for your labor

02:27:40 - Alternatives to markets

02:28:00 - Back to Buddhism without getting killed

02:29:30 - Hacking ourselves a transition

02:30:30 - Sex and rivalry and weirdness

02:32:00 - Abstract emphathy + coordination closing the loop

02:33:40 - Private balance sheets

02:34:40 - Ownership, access, mutual exclusion

02:35:20 - Sharing is caring - commons

02:36:30 - Anti-rivalry

02:37:30 - Prostitution, commitment and status

02:40:00 - Relationships as a replacement for status

02:42:00 - Power vs. wisdom

02:43:30 - Religion + education = Cognitive ability and social harmony

02:44:00 - Eric not trying to be negative

02:44:30 - That's just crazy-talk, but....

02:46:10 - Scaling collective consciousness

02:48:00 - Motivating social engineering

02:50:10 - Bribing away military conflict

02:50:30 - Summarizing for test and avoiding group selection as subject

02:54:30 - Reservations and questions: Violence and ownership

02:55:50 - Abundance and maturity

02:58:00 - Development hacking towards maturity?

02:59:00 - Sex is sexy

03:02:00 - Sexual selection

03:05:00 - Blind evolution: Short term benefits - long term problems

03:06:00 - Status and feeling uncomfy

03:08:00 - Diminishing returns on enhanced status

03:11:00 - Hypernormal stimuli in modern social networks

03:14:20 - Eric on being famous

03:17:40 - Pleasure and the deathbed mindset

03:20:00 - Spiritual growth as an alternative to social life

03:22:50 - Tradeoffs in social connection

03:24:00 - Money vs. ideas

03:25:00 - Empathy as psychological health

03:26:00 - When friends fail

03:28:00 - Escaping the prisoners dilemma

Annotations

The DISC

New York mayor tweet

gated institutional narrative

Embedded Growth Obligation

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negative externalities

von Neuman-Morgenstern

[sub-utility functions]

principal agent problems

moral hazard

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Mechanical Ventilation in an Airborne Epidemic

Preparing intensive care for the next pandemic influenza

stockpiling ventilators for influenza, pandemics

estimates of the demand for mechanical ventilation in the United States during an influenza pandemic

Triage is the process of determining the priority of patients' treatments based on the severity of their condition or likelihood of recovery with and without treatment.

Daniel Schmachtenberger website

The Twin Nuclei Problem

Game B

A gene drive is a genetic engineering technology that propagates a particular suite of genes throughout a population by altering the probability that a specific allele will be transmitted to offspring from the natural 50% probability.

Kalynivka ammunition depot explosion

Mujahideen

James Damore

The Personal Responsibility Votex

Tristan Harris, founder of time well spent and the center for humane technology

COINTELPRO

Charles Lindbergh

Dunbar's number/limit

Peter Kropotkin

Lotka–Volterra equations

Sex at Dawn